Ägypten – Sudan: Grenzübergang Qustul Eshkeet

[ursula]

Letzten Freitag wurde wieder einmal die Eröffnung des Grenzübergangs zwischen Ägypten und dem Sudan
angekündigt:
« The Occhet ( Eshkeet ) - Qustul border crossing is set to be inaugurated on Monday 25th »
http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/08/2 ... ated-days/

Falls das tatsächlich heute - oder vielleicht doch erst morgen? - Realität wird,
sollten wir doch einen neuen Thread anfangen, um all die Infos zusammen zu tragen

Grüsse
Ursula

[ursula]

Die Grenze zwischen Ägypten und Sudan mit den neuen Grenzposten bei
22.000593, 31.512466

Grüsse
Ursula

[Turi]

Hallo Ursula
Wir werden ca Juni nächsten Jahres dort sein.
Hoffe der Übergang ist bis dahin dann nicht schon wieder geschlossen
Grüsse aus Cape Town
Turi

[ursula]

Hallo Turi
Dann werde ich das Thema extra für euch im Auge behalten !
Hier ist schon mal ein Bild des Qustul Land Ports, leider versteh ich den aktuellen Text nicht…

http://www.dostor.org/666198
http://www.almasryalyoum.com/news/details/507128

Schöne Tage wünsche ich euch – ich bin jetzt schon gespannt auf euren Bericht!
Ursula
gegoogelt mit قسطل

[ursula]

nur am Mittwoch geöffnet oder jeden Tag?

"A new road known as Qostul - Ashkeet linking Egypt and Sudan has officially opened and will be in operation on Wednesday"
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... pened.aspx

„Sudan - Egypt Continental Road Inaugurated
Khartoum - The Ashkit - Qastal road linking Sudan with Egypt was inaugurated yesterday by the Minister of Roads, Bridges, Eng. Abdul-Wahid Yousif accompanied by Egyptian officials.“
http://news.sudanvisiondaily.com/detail ... pid=239688

Irgendwo habe ich noch gelesen, dass der Grenzposten von 9 bis 16 Uhr im Sommer und von 9 bis 15 Uhr im Winter
in Betrieb sei?

Schön wäre es , wenn jemand aus eigener Erfahrung berichten würde

[Klaus Daerr]

Hallo,
habe gerade von Rami Siag aus Kairo ein Posting auf meinem Facebook-Auftritt erhalten in dem auch er meldet, dass die Grenze zum Sudan am Stausee jetzt offen ist.Er hat ein Bild beigefügt, das offensichtlich auf der Fähre quer über den Stausee aufgenommen wurde. Rami Siag ist sehr erfahrener Veranstalter von Wüstenreisen innerhalb Ägyptens.
Wenn man auf Flashearth nachsieht,so erkennt man einen durchaus ernst zu nehmenden Hafen.
Die Teerstraße scheint auch im Sudan fertig zu sein.

[ursula]

heute auf Horizons Unlimited:

„ I have arrived in Assuan yesterday. The road to Wadi Halfa is open but only for locals (Egyptian, Sudanese)
as a tourist you will still have to take the ferry.
I will load my bike on the barge tomorrow morning and my self on the Ferry on Sunday“

[ursula]

die haben es geschafft !

http://www.20min.ch/leben/reisen/story/ ... g-27677823

[Turi]

Perfekt , hoffe nur das hält an.
Gruss Turi

[schnorr]

eine schwalbe macht noch keinen sommer.

ich bin mal gespannt, ob das auch ohne tv und minister geht.

[ursula]

von wegen Schwalben - wir hatten viele und trotzdem keinen Sommer

Die paar Leute, die es bisher mit der Fähre von Abu Simbel nach Qustul auf dem Landweg in den Sudan schafften,
mussten einen lokalen Führer mitnehmen! Ab Assuan denk ich - bis Abu Simbel?
Bikefahrer haben Pech, ausser sie finden einen Autofahrer, der sie mitnimmt, wie auf Horizons beschrieben

"I'm with my motorbike here. The Bike was shipped on the barge a few days ago. then I met a russian couple who are here by car and have arranged to take the road. I'll drive with them now.
As a tourist you need to have a local guide with you. you are not allowed to go alone. Due to this there is currently no way for cyclists. With a car you can hire a guide to join you."

Grüsse
Ursula

[travel2survive]

I'm in Rwanda now and want to travel the new border Eskeet-Qustul within about three months.
So coming from the south, going north. Anyone did this already? Is when travelling that way a guide also required?

Anything known about the prices? I'm travelling in a 12 tons truck.

Thanks,

Jan
www.travel2survive.com

[ursula]

hi Jan
there was an excellent info some days ago in this forum

Hey Wüstenschiff,
here are the latest news about the “newly” opened road and land border crossing from Wadi Halfa, Sudan, to Aswan, Egypt! We are in Aswan now and therefor managed to cross the borders successfully (2 people and 1 Land Rover) on Wednesday the 8th of October 2014! We had Mazar (Mazar Mahir. +249 12 238 0740. mazarhalfa@gmail.com. His home is even in Tracks4Africa! Under ‘Mazar BMW’) in Halfa as a Fixer. He went with us to the Sudanese border, about 35km north of Wadi Halfa. On the Egyptian side, Kamal was already waiting for us (see text below).

Sudanese side:
Needed Time: It took 2h for Mazar to finish all the paper work. It is NOT just about get the Carnet and the passport stamped. He organized much more papers, like a “pamphlet” , which “allows” us to leave Sudan.
Our job: Sit in the shade and wait.
Costs: We paid 450 SGP (53USD with receipts ) for Customs etc. Mazar paid everything and we gave him back the money in USD. We gave Mazar 47 USD for his services (about 30USD for his services and 17 USD for staying with him in Halfa)

->Total costs of 100 USD on the Sudanese side

Fazit: It MIGHT be possible (in the future) to cross the border without Mazar, but since the border just opened 1 month ago, it is not like any other border yet. One needs lots of papers, and there is no routine at all. Even for Mazar it took 2 hours to get all the papers.
Change some EGP (egyptian pound) already in Halfa (maybe 100 USD), Mazar will help you. Its good to have some EGP, although Kamal takes USD later. Exchange rate: 1USD=7.15 EGP.

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Finally, we drove the 200m to the Egyptian border control. Kamal (+20 100 532 26 69, kamalaswanegy@yahoo.com), who works together with Mazar on the Egyptian side, was already waiting and waiving for us behind the fence.

Needed time: 4h
Our job: Take everything out of the car and after wait in the shade.
Customs and security check: The officials are very nervous. Our car was carefully searched . We (they) had to take out everything, some of the boxes got screened, others just emptied and searched. They kept my ax (it was classified as a weapon) and I had a long discussion about my pocket knife and the cooking gas bottle.
Costs: Kamal paid everything in advance and I gave him the money back later in USD. No receipts were issued. I try to lists the approx. costs as far as I know:
Customs: 800 EGP (instead of 650 EGP at the harbor)
Third party insurance: 400EGP (instead of 160 EGP at the harbor)
Border entry costs: 50 EGP pp and 30 EGP for the car – 130 EGP
License and number plates: about 70 EGP
Later, after the border, a ferry ( 30km north of the border) from opposite Abu Simbel to Abu Simbel: 200 EGP . There is also a cheaper ferry (only 70 EGP), but since the ferries are just going about every 1.5h, we didn’t wait for the cheaper one.
Kamals service: 500 EGP (instead of 40USD at the harbor)

-> Kamal requested 2500 EGP (350USD) in total. If the above list is right (all prices according Kamal), we paid about 400 EGP baksheesh.

Visa: NO VISAS ARE ISSUED AT THIS BORDER! But, if Kamal knows it in advance, he gets a visa sticker from the airport in Aswan and brings it to the border. It is absolutely essential to check this with Kamal BEFOR you leave Sudan. Kamal needs to have the sticker and has to be at the border waiting for you!!!!!!! (25 USD pp)

Final Costs for 2 people + 1 car: 100 USD for Sudan, 350 USD for Egypt and 50 USD for Visa
->500 USD to cross the border

Final comment: So far, in my opinion, it is not possible to cross this border without a fixer, especially not the Egyptian side. Maybe in the future, but not now. The costs are about the same (OK, slightly cheaper) like with the ferry, but since the border is open every day one is much more flexible. And ones don’t need a hotel room in Aswan while waiting for the barge. The Egyptians check the car very carefully, so be prepared and bring patience and water (and hide your ax!). But they check the car really carefully (each box, under the car, under the mattress, under the seat etc.) According to Kamal, a bike is slightly cheaper, something around 1500 EGP he said.
Apparently, the ferry from Halfa to Aswan is ONLY a passenger ferry now. NO BARGE is operating anymore! There are also busses running now from Halfa to Aswan. Ask Mazar for more information.

Cheers Philipp
http://safarinjemablog.wordpress.com

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[Achim Vogt]

Im Duell "Reisen Ägypten" gegen "Reisen Ägypten" steht es derzeit 2:2. Während im nördlichen Sinai nach dem Anschlag vom Freitag, 24. Oktober, ein dreimonatiger Ausnahmezustand verhängt wurde und Reisen in die Westliche Wüste offenbar weiter verboten sind, läuft offenbar die Fähre von der Türkei nach Port Said regelmäßig und die Situation am neuen Grenzübergang zwischen Ägypten und dem Sudan in Qustul (Fahrt von Assuan nach Abu Simbel, dort Fähre zum östlichen Ufer bei Qustul, dort Grenzübergang, Weiterfahrt nach Wadi Halfa - oder umgebkehrt) scheint sich zu normalisieren. Omar Mansour, ein ägyptischer Motorrad-Traveller, der im HUBB von Horizons Unlimited regelmäßig postet, hat nach einer Erkundungsmission folgende Details notiert:

Yes it is true now you can travel by road and you can make it in the same day between the 2 countries. I managed to travel to Sudan and back to Egypt using the new road Qostol – Eshkit, or you can call it Aswan – Wadi Halfa, or Abu Simbel, Wadi Halfa. Things went smooth and easy.

The route starts from Aswan; you head toward the famous temple of Abu Simbel, you must be there at 8 am so better to go a day before and rest in one of the few hotels there.

By 7 :30 try to find the ferry. You won’t miss it it is just in the center of the very small town behind the bank. Ask any one will point it. I believe there is like 3 ferry boats daily. One of it runs by the Egyptian military but the best one is the first one at 8 : 30 start to sail from the west bank to the east bank [Fehler von mir korrigiert, AV] of the Nile and it crosses it in 90 minutes.

I didn’t pay as I was invited by the manager of the boat but I think it will not be more than 30 Egyptian pound for a motorbike and for a car I don’t know but I think it will be around 300 to 500 LE depend on how big is your car ( 1 USD = 7,10 Egyptian pound ).

When you reach the east bank of the Nile you have to drive for 30 km, it is only one way, you will be at the gate of the border. I paid 90 Egyptian pound to cross the gate (on the way back I paid 100).

When you cross the gate you will go to the left side you will be between 2 buildings, your fist office is the last one on the right hand side, you go there to scan and check your luggage, it is painful as I had to move all my luggage to the x ray machine and then have to load it back to my bike.

Just across that scan room there is a small booth you have to go there and pay 60 LE for checking and security thing I don’t know what was it although I got a receipt.

After that just 2 rooms next to the xray room the immigration room you stamp your passport. After that 2 room next to the immigration there is the customs room where you will stamp your carnet. I had an Egyptian carnet so I paid something around 50 Egyptian pounds. I don’t know if you have foreign carnet I think you pay something like 550 LE.

Any way you must take a receipt for each money you pay ,if you have any problems or any one ask you for money without receipts ask for the manager of the port (his office is the first one in that building that all your work will be with it and explain to hem politely that why you have to pay money without receipts or if you can’t reach hem try to speak with any officer ( officer you will see stars or eagles on his shoulders).

After you sort and stamp your carnet you must get your bike and go around the building to the traffic room. There they will take your chassis number and you have to pay something like 30 Egyptian pounds. You may here pay little bakshish something like 10 Egyptian pound to the guy who will bring a pencil and a small paper to get your chassis number, but still you don’t have to pay them ,it is just to make things faster. Make sure that you copy all your documents at least 4 copies and to get an empty paper file they will take your copies and the papers they will make and keep it there. I had to photocopy 2 papers and to buy that sh—t empty file for 80 Egyptian pound (the price in any town like Aswan won’t be maximum 3 Egyptian pound )so buy it from before to save money). The reason for that very high price it is rental office and they pay huge amount of money for the rent !!!!!!

After that you are ready to leave

The Sudan side

By Sudanese laws you must have a fixer to sort your papers, I spoke to the manager of the port and I knew that from him. You will find many fixers there you pay 100 to 200 Sudanese pounds maximum for his service and it is after you are ready to leave the port and all sorted don’t let the fixer pay any money, tell hem I will pay it myself and make sure you get a receipt too. (1USD = around 8 Sudanese pounds).

I spent 4 hours to finish the Sudan side had to pay around 155 insurance, and 20 to make photo copies and other things so I paid around 320 Sudanese pounds. Still pricey but it is way way cheaper and easier than the ferry between Aswan and Halfa

If you are more than 3 travelers and you will share the cost of a fixer, so you relax and he will do everything for you. I only trust Kamal from Aswan on the Egyptian side, and Mazar from Wadi Halfa opn the Sudanese side."

(ich habe ein paar kleine Korrekturen gemacht, um die Lesbarkeit des Original-Posts zu erhöhen)

Viele Grüße
Achim

[Matthias G]

Liebe Wüstenschiffer,

wir sind Mitte November mit 6 Fahrzeugen über die neue Fähre und den neuen Übergang von Ägypten in den Sudan ausgereist.

Die Fähre scheint mehrmals täglich zu gehen - es sind mehrere Fähren vorhanden.

Auf ägyptischer Seite haben wir mit Kamal, auf sudanesischer Seite mit Mazar zusammengearbeitet. Beides hat gut funktioniert.

Die Ausreise aus Ägypten hat mit 12 Personen und 6 Fahrzeugen ca. 4 Std. gedauert, die Einreise in den Sudan ca. 6 Stunden.

Kosten Einreise (inkl. Versicherung) Sudan ca. 200€/Fahrzeug (davon 50U$ Registrierung / pro Person)

Der Ponton ab Assuan fährt immer noch.

Einen Teil der Ausreise wurde in Assuan erledigt (1h).

Sehr angenehm: Auf ägyptischer Seite gibt es ein Restaurant im Zollhof.

Das Folgende bitte nur als sehr "Waage" Information wahrnehmen, da sich zum einen mit den wieder eingeführten Konvois alles geändert haben kann, zum anderen der tatsächliche Sachverhalt als wir durchfuhren auch ein anderer gewesen sein kann und wir das was ich gleich beschreibe nur unser Verständnis der Sache ist. Es scheint vor Ort keine Klarheit zu herrschen wie das Prozedere gerade ist, wer zuständig ist, wie mit Touristen umgegangen werden soll und welche Dokumente erforderlich sind.
Für die Fahrt nach Abu Simbel gab es als wir fuhren keinen Konvoi, jedoch war ein Schreiben der Touristenpolizei erforderlich. Dies wurde vom Kontrollposten hinter dem Flughafen eingefordert, bei der Touristenpolizei wusste davon niemand etwas. Kamal hatte dann nach mehreren Stunden etwas organisiert. Da es mittlerweile jedoch dunkel geworden war mussten wir 2 bewaffnete "Milizionäre" nach Abu Simbel mitnehmen.

Soweit

Weiterhin gute Reisen

Matthias